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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.survivalmachine.org/2008/01/03/we-shall-meet-in-the-place-where-there-is-no-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 00:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, not to intrude but Cydny asked me for links about the &quot;Pan American Highway&quot; so I figured why not just reply myself?  I am stuck at work late anyway!

What Cydny was writing about to is typically referred to as the NAFTA Super Highway.  Currently, in its infant stages it is known as the Trans Texas Corridor.  Its really a small part of the big picture.  &quot;The Problem&quot; with it is that it is part of a larger agenda -- one that also includes the REAL ID act, RFID chips and eroding privacy rights in general.

Carroll Quigley was a professor at Georgetown -- he mentored Bill clinton and was also the historian for the council on foreign relations.  He published a book &quot;Trady And Hope&quot; in which he openly explained the CFR&#039;s origins, founders and their tyrannical agenda to build a world government, knowing that few members of the public would ever pick up a dry 1300 page history book and put it together.  

Zeitgeist is not perfect but it does an equally solid job in the final two sections  as it does explaining the fallacy of religion.  It makes the absurdity of accepting the offical 9/11 story abunduntly clear and exposes the financial manipulation of government and its citizens by the &#039;international bankers&#039;.  Quigley corraborates this claim as he also openly talks about this money system we live in: the need for deception in it, how money is created from nothing and how this elite banking class (which he also refers to as the investment class and the establishment) use it to influence and control government.  This is not a conspiracy &#039;theory&#039; but rather something admitted to very candidly by those in the know.  

I am not a fan of loose change either-- it tries to point out every possible flaw with the official 911 theory, weakening the arguments that are actually legitimate.  However, the idea is to get one thinking about the many obvious holes and logical flaws in the 911 coverup.  It wasn&#039;t completely factual but it wasn&#039;t all invalid either.  

 Huxley did an incredible job making sense of all of this by explaining  the effects of propaganda and psychological conditioning -- essentially how all of this is true and people still do not care or do anything about it.  Moreover, he is not shy about describing the ultimate place this is taking us .  In 1952 Huxley wrote that he was surprised how quickly things were moving towards the Brave New World he wrote about in 1930(which he called his prophetic nightmare).  Huxley actually wrote Blair, telling him that his vision of a police state was obsolete due to advances in psychological conditioning and chemical persuasion.  Furthermore, that our leaders have figured this out.

An appropriate quote,

&quot;There will be, in the next generation or so, a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude, and producing dictatorship without tears, so to speak, producing a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies, so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them, but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda or brainwashing, or brainwashing enhanced by pharmacological methods. And this seems to be the final revolution.&quot; 

-- Aldous Huxley, 1962
http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC/audiofiles.html#huxley

respectfully,
Ben</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, not to intrude but Cydny asked me for links about the &#8220;Pan American Highway&#8221; so I figured why not just reply myself?  I am stuck at work late anyway!</p>
<p>What Cydny was writing about to is typically referred to as the NAFTA Super Highway.  Currently, in its infant stages it is known as the Trans Texas Corridor.  Its really a small part of the big picture.  &#8220;The Problem&#8221; with it is that it is part of a larger agenda &#8212; one that also includes the REAL ID act, RFID chips and eroding privacy rights in general.</p>
<p>Carroll Quigley was a professor at Georgetown &#8212; he mentored Bill clinton and was also the historian for the council on foreign relations.  He published a book &#8220;Trady And Hope&#8221; in which he openly explained the CFR&#8217;s origins, founders and their tyrannical agenda to build a world government, knowing that few members of the public would ever pick up a dry 1300 page history book and put it together.  </p>
<p>Zeitgeist is not perfect but it does an equally solid job in the final two sections  as it does explaining the fallacy of religion.  It makes the absurdity of accepting the offical 9/11 story abunduntly clear and exposes the financial manipulation of government and its citizens by the &#8216;international bankers&#8217;.  Quigley corraborates this claim as he also openly talks about this money system we live in: the need for deception in it, how money is created from nothing and how this elite banking class (which he also refers to as the investment class and the establishment) use it to influence and control government.  This is not a conspiracy &#8216;theory&#8217; but rather something admitted to very candidly by those in the know.  </p>
<p>I am not a fan of loose change either&#8211; it tries to point out every possible flaw with the official 911 theory, weakening the arguments that are actually legitimate.  However, the idea is to get one thinking about the many obvious holes and logical flaws in the 911 coverup.  It wasn&#8217;t completely factual but it wasn&#8217;t all invalid either.  </p>
<p> Huxley did an incredible job making sense of all of this by explaining  the effects of propaganda and psychological conditioning &#8212; essentially how all of this is true and people still do not care or do anything about it.  Moreover, he is not shy about describing the ultimate place this is taking us .  In 1952 Huxley wrote that he was surprised how quickly things were moving towards the Brave New World he wrote about in 1930(which he called his prophetic nightmare).  Huxley actually wrote Blair, telling him that his vision of a police state was obsolete due to advances in psychological conditioning and chemical persuasion.  Furthermore, that our leaders have figured this out.</p>
<p>An appropriate quote,</p>
<p>&#8220;There will be, in the next generation or so, a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude, and producing dictatorship without tears, so to speak, producing a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies, so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them, but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda or brainwashing, or brainwashing enhanced by pharmacological methods. And this seems to be the final revolution.&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8211; Aldous Huxley, 1962<br />
<a href="http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC/audiofiles.html#huxley" rel="nofollow">http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC/audiofiles.html#huxley</a></p>
<p>respectfully,<br />
Ben</p>
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		<title>By: Cydny</title>
		<link>http://www.survivalmachine.org/2008/01/03/we-shall-meet-in-the-place-where-there-is-no-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>Cydny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 13:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are two different people. And a highway that increases gloabalization is not ok with me. None the less the millions of miles of habitat that will be destroyed along.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are two different people. And a highway that increases gloabalization is not ok with me. None the less the millions of miles of habitat that will be destroyed along.</p>
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		<title>By: simian</title>
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		<dc:creator>simian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 06:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a lot of issues with Zeitgeist, although I do like the first section exposing the fallacy of religion. Avery&#039;s Loose Change was just incorrect. I&#039;m not familiar with Watt but I will look into him. Are Alan Watt and Alan Watts two different people? Also not familiar with Quiggly. Will look into him as well.

What&#039;s the problem with the Pan American Highway?

And I caused 9/11... but don&#039;t tell anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a lot of issues with Zeitgeist, although I do like the first section exposing the fallacy of religion. Avery&#8217;s Loose Change was just incorrect. I&#8217;m not familiar with Watt but I will look into him. Are Alan Watt and Alan Watts two different people? Also not familiar with Quiggly. Will look into him as well.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the problem with the Pan American Highway?</p>
<p>And I caused 9/11&#8230; but don&#8217;t tell anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: cydny</title>
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		<dc:creator>cydny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 17:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, lets see.... who else maight have let us know what has been going on? Our good friends who put this out:http://zeitgeistmovie.com/ or poor slightly mislead Dylan Avery or philosopher Alan Watt:http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/ for that matter also Alan Watts.... and yeas the author of Tragedy and Hope: Mr. Carol Quiggly... lastly good old Huxley.

My point?

WAKE THE FUCK UP PEOPLE. This information is in your face if you put your face in any intellectual places, it is no surprised that every liberty and freedom we have is being usurped slowly... not even all that slowly. What about the PAN AMERICAN HIGHWAY? Recent restrictions on passports, National IDs and the medias sudden promotion of microchipping kids and old people. The shock to me is that we all shut up and take it. 

Keep trying to wake them up Tim and in the mean time: Who caused 9/11?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, lets see&#8230;. who else maight have let us know what has been going on? Our good friends who put this out:http://zeitgeistmovie.com/ or poor slightly mislead Dylan Avery or philosopher Alan Watt:http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/ for that matter also Alan Watts&#8230;. and yeas the author of Tragedy and Hope: Mr. Carol Quiggly&#8230; lastly good old Huxley.</p>
<p>My point?</p>
<p>WAKE THE FUCK UP PEOPLE. This information is in your face if you put your face in any intellectual places, it is no surprised that every liberty and freedom we have is being usurped slowly&#8230; not even all that slowly. What about the PAN AMERICAN HIGHWAY? Recent restrictions on passports, National IDs and the medias sudden promotion of microchipping kids and old people. The shock to me is that we all shut up and take it. </p>
<p>Keep trying to wake them up Tim and in the mean time: Who caused 9/11?</p>
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